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  The moment you know you will die, too

  by dgp in

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  at some point in life, everyone outside of the wtbts realizes that death if a fact of life.

  no one gets to accept that fact easily, and the moment when you realize you will die, too, usually comes all of a sudden and takes you by surprise.

  when you were a jw, did you have such a moment, even though the society told you you would never die?

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  During the last couple of years that i was in, i often went to sleep wanting to die, and was pissed off each morning i awoke. After i left i often 'cursed god' and waited to die. For many many years i expected to die by 40.

  So it was that i came to terms with my mortality. By wanting to die for so long i think i may have short cut the shock of discovering that their is no paradise. I thus came to the conclusion that has served me well, that today is all we have, so make it a good one. Upon learning of so much that is wrong with the WBTS, i have no desire to live forever among such blind people anyway.

  Do i want to die? NO. But i know i will one day. Even if it comes too soon, i know that i have been living my best years, my most loved years post JW.

  Oz
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  Fun with numbers (or the Watchtower running out of steam) Statistics

  by Aussie Oz in

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  2. bible

  having a look through the march wt pdf and noticed the graph showing the growth of jws and did a little basic math.

  now math was not my strongest subject at school so i can stand some correcting on this if need be... but anyway, a little fun with numbers:.

  1970; 1'483'000 is a growth of about 390% (av 19.5% per year).

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  Thanks doug, still it seems no matter what spin they put on it, increases are going down.

  The golden years are gone, back in those days, most people had some sort of genuine 'godliness' it seems. wars no longer send people to religion in massive numbers.

  oz
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  How do you feel about street people asking you for money

  by I quit! in

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  about half of the freeway exits i get off at have someone there begging.

  in the past i felt they were only hitting me up for money to by drugs or booze so i rarely handed them any.

  in this economy i'm wondering if some of them aren't really in need of something to eat.

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  I had a woman ask for money for a train ticket. I said i would not give her cash but if she wanted food i would buy her something to eat. Which i did. Many hours later, i saw her at the casino pokies. Thats why i wont give money.

  Oz
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  Have some went back & those who do, what's it like??

  by DubR in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope everyone had a great time with their loved ones last week!

  i wanted to know have any on this forum went back to being a jehovah's witness who were previously disfellowshipped, disassociated, agnostic, atheist; or just faded away?

  would any of you eventually go back for family and friends?

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  I could if i had to. I have contemplated it may arise one day to work at getting my kids out if they end up baptised. My wife would support me in it.

  that said, i never ever want to go back, the thought of even pretending to be like them makes me ill.

  oz
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  what do you think of the elders who df'd you?

  by c.t.russel the IVth in

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  your thoughts on the elders that made up the 'comittee' that disfellowshipped you.

  did you want to get even somehow or?.

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  I must add, if i knew then what i know now... i would have faked a real good repentance and stayed as a fading, on the edge JW so that i could influence my kids from within. If my teens get dunked anytime soon, thats gunna be real hard to deal with.

  oz
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  what do you think of the elders who df'd you?

  by c.t.russel the IVth in

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  2. friends

  your thoughts on the elders that made up the 'comittee' that disfellowshipped you.

  did you want to get even somehow or?.

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  I was D/F 10 years ago for commiting adultery to free my ex to remarry.

  I felt/feel sorry for them. In my case, they were friends, liked me very much and i liked them. Two of the few it seems genuine kind hearted elders, and were quite pained at having to do it, They looked for every oportunity not to d/f. They asked me what they ought to do, i just replied that if i was them i would disfellowship. I was not sorry for leaving, not sorry for freeing my ex and did not feel in any way that i had offended a God that i no longer had a relationship with.

  oz
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  Is it wrong

  by notknowing in

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  is it wrong that i am now part of a ministry where we reach out to the young and old.

  we go into prisons and juvenile detention centers to talk to the kids and adults to encourage them to read there bible and to show motivation.

  the way how we do this is through our motorcycle and the stunts we perform.

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  Personally, i see the mixing of soup kitchen with a sermon, motorbikes and a christian message, a rock concert at the local penticostal church, hotrods for jesus type of thing as a con. Hook 'em with some fun then hit 'em with a message.

  Its like, see! I'm a normal bloke who digs this and that AND i am a christian! WOW. I dont have two heads after all.

  If you want to teach religion go in on that.

  If you want to teach em how to do a stunt stick with that.

  Thats how i see it anyway.

  Oz
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  Mental Illness with Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Hope4Others in

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  2. medical

  this presentation goes over jerry bergman's research on mental illness with jehovah's witnesses.

  this includes over 8 different research projects conducted by different doctors.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbxtvuat1g.

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  little gem from a JW facebook group

  Name removed wrote 9 hours ago

  You will all know me in the new system. I will be the one with a mirriead of Horses following me. I have given up much and gained pleanty. I know that now is not the time for farming and critter raising, with my physical/mental diseases/disorders. So I am patient.

  Not being cruel but, gee, it would probably HELP her to raise 'critters' you know.

  oz
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  questions from starting to look into the pedophile scandles

  by Aussie Oz in

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  2. beliefs

  first off, possibly like most first looking into this, i feel nauseous.

  a month ago i would have thought that ok, sure, like any organization the jw must have some pedophiles.

  and that obvously they would be rooted out double quick.

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  First off, possibly like most first looking into this, i feel nauseous. A month ago i would have thought that ok, sure, like any organization the JW must have some pedophiles. But only a few, some. And that obvously they would be rooted out double quick. So few compared to the Catholic Church that we basically never heard of any.

  So i guess shock is an understatement after looking at silent lambs and Barbara's sites.

  Some have called the JW a pedaphile paradise.

  How much worse than in the other religions is it?

  Is the ratio of perverts to flock higher or lower than the other religions?

  I note that all the news articles about the other religions focus on the clergy only and not the so much the members.

  Are the witnesses infected at the same ratio as the rest of society? or more, or less?

  Is the scandal that they have more than the rest or the shocking way that they choose to deal with it?

  oz
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  Bethel reductions in Europe

  by Lost-In-Translation in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perhaps this has been discussed before, but at the extjforo.com (the spanish ex-witness website) there has been a lot of discussion of the governing body's decision to either close or severely reduce bethel homes in europe - in particular spain.

  there was even a letter sent to all congregations in spain explaining the situation.

  bethalites are being asked to leave - they are not even getting other assignments.

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  A direct quote

  "there are a lot of unhappy people, unhappy at leaving their home and their friends - the branch overseers at breakfast reminds all that this is jehovah's will, not the will of man"

  That's got to be the best joke of the month!

  oz